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Japanese crossword #55048



Size: 30x20Picture:7/10Difficulty:4/10Added:22.03.22Author: Felix-the-meow

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COMMENTS
msat (23 March 2022, 2:05) complain
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I couldn't see a logically way into this one beyond using the very obvious symmetry. Did I miss something, or was this one rather hard?
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Onono (23 March 2022, 4:19) complain
Using the symmetry, it wasn't hard. I didn't try any other way.
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romuloescamilla (23 March 2022, 16:21) complain
I saw the symmetry early, but I like to complete the puzzles with straight numerical logic. I think seeing it from that aspect, it was a bit difficult, but still entertaining
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Onono (24 March 2022, 4:40) complain
Ok, but using the symmetry is straight numerical logic.
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romuloescamilla (25 March 2022, 20:53) complain
I agree... it's just that when I use the symmetry, I move more on instinct than on calculations, which makes it easier and faster. but hey, as long as the puzzle gets done!
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Onono (30 March 2022, 1:21) complain
Ok, but instinct is not logic of any kind.
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John_Robertshaw (13 April 2022, 17:13) complain
Sorry onion but I disagree. Instinct in the context of nonograms is I believe your brain working logically in the background- without that logic popping into your conscious brain. This is similar to speed reading or scanning where you don't read every word to yourself - but are able to understand the written word.
Because people aren't aware of this process they call it instinct.
Your thoughts?
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Onono (13 April 2022, 22:39) complain
I would call that intuition, not instinct, and it's intuition that is built on accumulated knowledge; but whatever you call it, yes, it works as you describe it. So instead of "instinct is not logic of any kind", I should have said, "follow your instinct, but check with calculations".

I follow my intuition all the time when I'm solving a nonogram; often it's right, sometimes it's wrong, sometimes it leads me away from the solution and I have to overrule it to get back on track.

And when I use symmetry, it's very mechanical, not at all intuitive: if the image is mirror-symmetrical across a vertical axis, then for every horizontal line that has an odd number of numbers, the middle one is centred on that axis. I don't see where intuition (or instinct, if you want to call it that) has a chance to come into it.
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romuloescamilla (29 April 2022, 7:30) complain
such interesting comments, thanks guys for sharing your way of thinking when solving nonograms. I agree with both of you; I meant instinct as with no need to justify the logic of my selections; it was intuition because it is based out of accumulated knowledge. If it wasn't because I've solved a bunch of puzzles, I wouldn't know that some hidden or implicit rules will most surely apply to the puzzle I'm solving. Keep'em comming
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romuloescamilla (29 April 2022, 7:30) complain
coming? :D
Celandine (1 March 2024, 17:22) complain
My thinking is that it took me 20 minutes by taking full advantage of symmetry and I don't often have time to take longer than that on a puzzle. So when symmetry is obvious, I will use it, unless the puzzle is small or very easy
andy11 (23 March 2022, 11:42) complain
I agree with you, without the symmetry this would have been difficult.
wisekaren (23 March 2022, 20:46) complain
I did it purely through logic, although I obviously saw the symmetry.
The-Nono-Gram (25 March 2022, 9:01) complain
I am one who refuses to use symmetry, YES! it was hard.
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SimPal (2 October 2023, 17:55) complain
Agreed
msat (31 March 2022, 1:23) complain
I just tried it again, without relying on the symmetry and found a couple of things I missed the first time around. Didn't find it so difficult this time!
Chorton (23 March 2022, 11:12) complain
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Thank goodness it wasn't another crown, as i thought part way through!
higher (24 March 2022, 14:58) complain
nice symmetric picture :)
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