Japanese crossword «Native»
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Oh Oh! :-( Get ready for some negative comments on this depiction!
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This is wrong and racist. If you want to picture a native there are respectful ways, this is not.
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Please refer to the discussion of Vigil's "black-face" crossword of Maxima: a character from a Russian children's book by the 19th century Russian author Stanyukovich. Maxima is an American slave who is shipwrecked, rescued by Russians, and treated as a person for the first time. Thrilled and grateful, Maxima decides to become Russian and joins the Orthodox church. According to a Western scholar, the book is written to celebrate freedom, equality, and human dignity as represented by Maxima's new life.
Vigil never does understand why we in the West are uncomfortable with the picture. Note how baffled Vigil is and how s/he keeps trying to guess what s/he has done wrong. www.nonograms.org/nonograms/i/17297
replyVigil never does understand why we in the West are uncomfortable with the picture. Note how baffled Vigil is and how s/he keeps trying to guess what s/he has done wrong. www.nonograms.org/nonograms/i/17297
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I don't think that discussion is relevant to this image. This is simply a lazy, racist stereotype. The country you come from is irrelevant too. Russia has a proud history of anti-racism and supporting anti-imperialism and racism amongst Africans and African Americans.
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Not that I'm accusing you of being in any way racist or 'soft' on racism Sheryl. I know you don't have a racist bone in your body and are simply giving a different perspective which is absolutely a good thing to do.
replyFrom the perspective of human history, discrimination based on skin color is a very recent development (it is discrimination based on tribe that is is ancient). In the Roman Empire, landowners, especially those who were educated, were the empowered class--regardless of race. Augustine, the great Christian theologian of the 4th century, was a North African. It was unthinkable for him to marry the mother of his son because, although she was North African, she was not of the landed class.
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I am not denying that this picture may cause people pain. I understand that for some people, knowing that no offense was meant will be of no help. The pain is real and it matters. I am sorry.
replyOh dear. 'North African'?? St. Augustine was a male, white Roman citizen.
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St. Augustine wrote the first autobiography, Confessions, which confirms that he from North Africa, although he lived his adult life in Rome. He was described by an observer at the Council of Nicea as "swarthy" or "having a dark complexion." But as skin color was unimportant in the Roman Empire, it was as unlikely to be remarkable to others as his shoe size. Confessions is a great book. I highly recommend it to you.
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Sorry. The other thing we know: The Roman Empire extended to North Africa. Augustine was from Hippo. Hippo is the present-day Annaba, Algeria. All we know for certain is that his skin was somewhere on the brown-peachy scale of all human skin--as someone would certainly have commented if he had been purple or green. ;)
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I was just commenting on your irrelevant connection of St. Augustine (who was certainly not 'a black man', although he may have been of dark complexion) and a racist picture from the colonial past. Your argument is really quite unsound.
I have studied the Confession rather closely, as a matter of fact. It is a great book.
replyI have studied the Confession rather closely, as a matter of fact. It is a great book.
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Murejo is correct. St. Augustine was Berber, which means he would've been of Mediterranean skin tone and in no way would've been treated as a "black" person in this context. And while tribal bigotry predates advanced cultural forms of racism, discrimination based on skin-color/race is most definitely also ancient. That it played a minimal role in Rome - where subSaharan Africans were rarely in existence enough to be treated differently as a group - doesn't change that.
Taking issue with white colonialism goes way beyond the United States - just as white Europeans colonized a lot more places than North America. Anyone who is on the internet, and pretends that they don't know why an image/title like this is offensive to people world-wide, is more often than not demonstrating willful ignorance.
replyTaking issue with white colonialism goes way beyond the United States - just as white Europeans colonized a lot more places than North America. Anyone who is on the internet, and pretends that they don't know why an image/title like this is offensive to people world-wide, is more often than not demonstrating willful ignorance.
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Hitler killing millions of Jewish people was racism, as was Stalin, and slavery in the U.S.A.. Racism harms individuals. This is nothing more than art; a simple picture and harms no one, except the minds of individual who think racism is a mere picture. How else is the artist supposed to represent a dark-skinned person with a black and white palette? Or are we just supposed to stick to strawberries and cats (already way-overdone)for puzzles to solve?
replyThe west does have different sensibilities around race. Although the author certainly didn't mean to offend, this does unfortunately come off as disrespectful. I don't necessarily believe this warrants being removed, but more context would be important here.
replyAm I offended? Not especially. Do I think it should be removed? No. I just think it is a bit of a lazy, racist stereotype. Given the history of images like this and how they have fed into a narrative of racial inferiority, I'd probably be pretty pissed off if I was a black. In fact, now I think about it more, I am offended by it and I think it is an unpleasant image.
replyIt's just a puzzle. I enjoyed solving it. Why does anyone think they need to make a case out of this?
replyBecause racism has hurt so many people I love. Maybe we should just complain about these images until our host site gets the message.
replyThis is exactly how African people were presented in USSR cartoons before the internet and when most people haven't seen a black man in their entire life.
replyJust be more sensitive next time, Irina, no need to hurt people, even if not intended.
replyThis is not okay and should be taken down immidiately
replyI have complained with this comment (having only just found a message to me from last June about this picture):
This picture is a type of hurtful racist caricature, particularly with the title Native. The word Native is defined as "DATED•OFFENSIVE
a non-white original inhabitant of a place, as regarded by European colonists or travellers." here https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/native
If you look at the comments, a lot of people felt it should be taken down. Thank you
replyThis picture is a type of hurtful racist caricature, particularly with the title Native. The word Native is defined as "DATED•OFFENSIVE
a non-white original inhabitant of a place, as regarded by European colonists or travellers." here https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/native
If you look at the comments, a lot of people felt it should be taken down. Thank you
When I saw this, I legitimately thought it was an animal. Seeing the title and learning that it was supposed to be a human, made me feel terrible. This is a deeply problematic one. Regardless of the author's intent or background knowledge of the subject, this perpetuates deeply racist stereotypes that should not be celebrated through art. This should definitely been removed.
replyI thought it would be a monkey. Turns out it's really a snowflake detector.
replyI don't know why you guys think this is supposed to be a person. It is clearly a monkey. And monkeys are native to continents around the world. They were here long before we were and are the native species. I think you are all getting up in arms over nothing.
replyAs soon as I saw this, I said uh oh. People will turn a simple picture into racism because they don't even know the meaning of the blasted word. Turns out, I was so right.
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I see the tone-deaf "iT's JuSt A pIcTure" crowd is here. Noted.
replyFrom US perspective this is super racist.From Russian perspective this is an old image of tribal people as depicted in the media.To the author this may be just a cartoon w/o politics.Russia didn’t have a colonial past with black slaves.White peasants were slaves there.Disney cartoons in the US removed all the "black faces,” for reasons obvious in the US, but not obvious in other countries.& this is not a monkey.Black people were intentionally drawn to resemble monkeys.Russian cartoonists borrowed the imagery from abroad.Now it’s bad in the US due to the feedback from black communities.There r no activists in Russia.The internet tends to encapsulate your interests & there's no exposure to discrimination through neighbors, so the state of ignorance perpetuates.There’s no intent to insult or to cause pain from author.This is a case of ignorance.But I wonder about the moderators of this website…
replyИриша, наши чёрные друзья из Штатов на вас обижаются за сей шедевр. Советую снять.
replyOoga booga. It looks like the doll from Trilogy Of Terror.
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